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What TV shows would you like to see get a deluxe DVD release?
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Joe
2010-08-26 13:18:49 UTC
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Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned already
available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release could've
included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't available,
what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a deluxe DVD
release.
Angus Rodgers
2010-08-26 13:57:19 UTC
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Post by Joe
Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned already
available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release could've
included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't available,
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Post by Joe
what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a deluxe DVD
release.
A lot of children's shows and cartoons (is there not a market for
them, or are they not respected - apart from The Simpsons, Family
Guy, South Park, Futurama, The Ren and Stimpy Show, ...? OK, some
are respected!):

Malcolm in the Middle
As Told By Ginger
The Big Knights
Clueless
Daria
Dexter's Laboratory
The Charlie Brown and Snoopy Show
Earthworm Jim
Stressed Eric
Recess
Waynehead
Hey Arnold!
Extreme Ghostbusters
God, the Devil and Bob
Jumanji
Pepper Ann
Vicky the Viking
The Wild Thornberrys
The PJs
Rex the Runt
Aaagh! It's the Mr Hell Show!
Fairly OddParents

At least there's a complete set of The Powerpuff Girls (in NTSC,
not much use to me).

And some more comedy:

Kids in the Hall

But please, please, especially Malcolm in the Middle!
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Anim8rFSK
2010-08-26 15:53:42 UTC
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Post by Joe
Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned already
available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release could've
included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't available,
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Post by Joe
what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a deluxe DVD
release.
A lot of children's shows and cartoons (is there not a market for
them, or are they not respected - apart from The Simpsons, Family
Guy, South Park, Futurama, The Ren and Stimpy Show, ...? OK, some
Kim Possible desperately needs an HD season set release, and not these
odd butchered collections.

Jonny Quest could use a redo and fix.

They need to go back and fix Kung Fu season 1.

I want 12 O'Clock High dammit! It looked like we were finally getting
the QM stuff, and then, nothing.
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Angus Rodgers
2010-08-27 03:44:55 UTC
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:53:42 -0700,
Post by Anim8rFSK
They need to go back and fix Kung Fu season 1.
I haven't yet seen the DVDs (or indeed very many episodes of the
series, although I remember enjoying the ones I saw). What did
they do wrong with them?
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Angus Rodgers
Anim8rFSK
2010-08-27 06:17:58 UTC
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Post by Angus Rodgers
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:53:42 -0700,
Post by Anim8rFSK
They need to go back and fix Kung Fu season 1.
I haven't yet seen the DVDs (or indeed very many episodes of the
series, although I remember enjoying the ones I saw). What did
they do wrong with them?
Made them 16:9 by blowing up the 4:3 image and chopping off the top and
bottom.
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Edward McArdle
2010-08-27 06:34:57 UTC
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Post by Anim8rFSK
Post by Angus Rodgers
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:53:42 -0700,
Post by Anim8rFSK
They need to go back and fix Kung Fu season 1.
I haven't yet seen the DVDs (or indeed very many episodes of the
series, although I remember enjoying the ones I saw). What did
they do wrong with them?
Made them 16:9 by blowing up the 4:3 image and chopping off the top and
bottom.
Nobody has mentioned the Batman TV series! I would love to buy them all,
but apparently they are in copyright hell.
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Edward McArdle
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2010-08-27 12:29:15 UTC
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Post by Anim8rFSK
Post by Angus Rodgers
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:53:42 -0700,
Post by Anim8rFSK
They need to go back and fix Kung Fu season 1.
I haven't yet seen the DVDs (or indeed very many episodes of the
series, although I remember enjoying the ones I saw).  What did
they do wrong with them?
Made them 16:9 by blowing up the 4:3 image and chopping off the top and
bottom.
Nobody has mentioned the Batman TV series! I would love to buy them all,
but apparently they are in copyright hell.
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Edward McArdle
Batman is number one beating WKRP by a small margin.
Michael Black
2010-08-27 15:07:38 UTC
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Post by Edward McArdle
Post by Anim8rFSK
Post by Angus Rodgers
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:53:42 -0700,
Post by Anim8rFSK
They need to go back and fix Kung Fu season 1.
I haven't yet seen the DVDs (or indeed very many episodes of the
series, although I remember enjoying the ones I saw). What did
they do wrong with them?
Made them 16:9 by blowing up the 4:3 image and chopping off the top and
bottom.
Nobody has mentioned the Batman TV series! I would love to buy them all,
but apparently they are in copyright hell.
I bought the movie, as a token representation of the TV series.

Michael
Anim8rFSK
2010-08-27 16:29:40 UTC
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Post by Edward McArdle
Post by Anim8rFSK
Post by Angus Rodgers
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:53:42 -0700,
Post by Anim8rFSK
They need to go back and fix Kung Fu season 1.
I haven't yet seen the DVDs (or indeed very many episodes of the
series, although I remember enjoying the ones I saw). What did
they do wrong with them?
Made them 16:9 by blowing up the 4:3 image and chopping off the top and
bottom.
Nobody has mentioned the Batman TV series! I would love to buy them all,
but apparently they are in copyright hell.
I bought the movie, as a token representation of the TV series.
You'll note that any time anybody shows scenes from the show, they're
actually from the movie, which I have in Blu-ray. :)
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Merrick Baldelli
2010-08-28 12:13:38 UTC
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Nobody has mentioned the Batman TV series! I would love to buy them all,
but apparently they are in copyright hell.
I would actually spend money to get that given all the people
that starred as villains.
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Dragon Lady
2010-08-27 02:21:15 UTC
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Post by Angus Rodgers
Post by Joe
Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned already
available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release could've
included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't available,
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Post by Joe
what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a deluxe DVD
release.
A lot of children's shows and cartoons (is there not a market for
them, or are they not respected - apart from The Simpsons, Family
Guy, South Park, Futurama, The Ren and Stimpy Show, ...? OK, some
Er...you consider those show's to be children's shows?
Angus Rodgers
2010-08-27 03:26:09 UTC
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:21:15 -0600, "Dragon Lady"
Post by Dragon Lady
Post by Angus Rodgers
A lot of children's shows and cartoons (is there not a market for
them, or are they not respected - apart from The Simpsons, Family
Guy, South Park, Futurama, The Ren and Stimpy Show, ...? OK, some
Er...you consider those show's to be children's shows?
Evidently not, as my own childhood is far behind me, but all of
them are of interest to children (or teenagers), and none of them
is aimed solely at adults. It seems reasonable to me to consider
"children's shows and cartoons" as a category. The programmes in
this category which do seem to get some respect all seem to be
among those which are aimed more at adults than at children (and
I listed some of the best-known of these), but even they are all
loved by children.

I didn't try to be academically precise; should I have been?

Also, do you not think that the reason why these shows have not
got much (if any) DVD treatment is that they aren't aimed mainly
at adults, and are therefore not thought to deserve much respect?

I admit I am a bit puzzled as to why, if this is the explanation,
there is not thought to be a market for them, respectable or not.
So am I mistaken in my belief that their interest to children has
something to do with their neglect?

I'm also a bit puzzled that anime series do seem to get the DVD
treatment, even though many of them (of course not all) are aimed
at least as much at children as adults.

So perhaps I'm misunderstanding the reason for these programmes
not having received a full DVD release?

Malcolm in the Middle, by the way, was most recently shown in the
UK in a children's slot at around noon on Saturday, with the most
annoying 'yoof' presenter ever. I myself thought it should have
been scheduled as an adult programme, in much the same way as The
Simpsons (which it does not, however, resemble as much as some
listings suggest).

The Ren and Stimpy Show was also usually shown in a children's
slot, I think - although it's so long since it has been on UK
analogue TV that I'm not sure - whereas it would also seem to
fit more naturally into the same category as The Simpsons, Family
Guy, South Park, Futurama, American Dad, King of the Hill, etc.,
i.e. although enjoyable by children, it is aimed more at adults.
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Dragon Lady
2010-08-27 04:38:08 UTC
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Post by Angus Rodgers
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:21:15 -0600, "Dragon Lady"
Post by Dragon Lady
Post by Angus Rodgers
A lot of children's shows and cartoons (is there not a market for
them, or are they not respected - apart from The Simpsons, Family
Guy, South Park, Futurama, The Ren and Stimpy Show, ...? OK, some
Er...you consider those show's to be children's shows?
Evidently not, as my own childhood is far behind me, but all of
them are of interest to children (or teenagers), and none of them
is aimed solely at adults. It seems reasonable to me to consider
"children's shows and cartoons" as a category. The programmes in
this category which do seem to get some respect all seem to be
among those which are aimed more at adults than at children (and
I listed some of the best-known of these), but even they are all
loved by children.
I know The Simpsons and Futurama are out on DVD here, don't know about the
others, but I now people who wouldn't let their children watch these shows
because they are more aimed at adults than at children.
Post by Angus Rodgers
I didn't try to be academically precise; should I have been?
Nah. That's why I asked.
Post by Angus Rodgers
Also, do you not think that the reason why these shows have not
got much (if any) DVD treatment is that they aren't aimed mainly
at adults, and are therefore not thought to deserve much respect?
I think that's exactly why. Children (not teenagers, but younger children)
do not buy DVDs. Adults do. My kids used to complain about their dad
watching the same shows over and over again - even though they watched the
same cartoons over and over. Ironic.
Post by Angus Rodgers
I admit I am a bit puzzled as to why, if this is the explanation,
there is not thought to be a market for them, respectable or not.
So am I mistaken in my belief that their interest to children has
something to do with their neglect?
Is it their interest to children, or the assumptiont that because the
primary viewers are children, they don't interest adults? If so, the
producers are obviously mistaken.
Post by Angus Rodgers
I'm also a bit puzzled that anime series do seem to get the DVD
treatment, even though many of them (of course not all) are aimed
at least as much at children as adults.
Isn't most anime from Japan? I haven't watched at lot of it, so I don't
know much about it.
Post by Angus Rodgers
So perhaps I'm misunderstanding the reason for these programmes
not having received a full DVD release?
Malcolm in the Middle, by the way, was most recently shown in the
UK in a children's slot at around noon on Saturday, with the most
annoying 'yoof' presenter ever. I myself thought it should have
been scheduled as an adult programme, in much the same way as The
Simpsons (which it does not, however, resemble as much as some
listings suggest).
Heh. I never cared much for Malcolm in the Middle, but it was on TV long
enough to prove it was popular. I'm surprised it hasn't been put out on
DVD.
Post by Angus Rodgers
The Ren and Stimpy Show was also usually shown in a children's
slot, I think - although it's so long since it has been on UK
analogue TV that I'm not sure - whereas it would also seem to
fit more naturally into the same category as The Simpsons, Family
Guy, South Park, Futurama, American Dad, King of the Hill, etc.,
i.e. although enjoyable by children, it is aimed more at adults.
Never cared for Ren & Stimpy. Even when I was a child, my sense of humor
didn't run to those kind of shows. I was more into Scooby Doo. I also don't
care much for South Park. I think it's the running gag about Kenny getting
killed that turned me off on that one. I've never seen American Dad, but if
it's in the same category as the others, I'd agree they're more aimed at
adults than children. However, there is a market for children's shows, at
least in the U.S. I'm not sure why the shows you mentioned aren't coming
out on DVD. Perhaps they just don't think there's enough of a market to
make it worth while.
Wingnut
2010-08-27 05:39:12 UTC
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Post by Dragon Lady
Also, do you not think that the reason why these shows have not got
much (if any) DVD treatment is that they aren't aimed mainly at adults,
and are therefore not thought to deserve much respect?
I think that's exactly why. Children (not teenagers, but younger
children) do not buy DVDs.
Children nag and moan until parents buy things *for* them. Market well
enough to children and adults end up opening their wallets just to shut
them up. Disney has built a fucking multi-billion-dollar empire on this
phenomenon, selling DVDs in particular, and has long had the money and
the clout to basically write one of the G8 nations' copyright laws to its
favor (and that one then exports it via international treaties to
virtually the entire developed world).
Post by Dragon Lady
I'm also a bit puzzled that anime series do seem to get the DVD
treatment, even though many of them (of course not all) are aimed at
least as much at children as adults.
Isn't most anime from Japan?
Isn't all of it, more or less *by definition*?
Dragon Lady
2010-08-27 19:38:29 UTC
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Post by Dragon Lady
Also, do you not think that the reason why these shows have not got
much (if any) DVD treatment is that they aren't aimed mainly at adults,
and are therefore not thought to deserve much respect?
I think that's exactly why. Children (not teenagers, but younger
children) do not buy DVDs.
Children nag and moan until parents buy things *for* them. Market well
enough to children and adults end up opening their wallets just to shut
them up. Disney has built a fucking multi-billion-dollar empire on this
phenomenon, selling DVDs in particular, and has long had the money and
the clout to basically write one of the G8 nations' copyright laws to its
favor (and that one then exports it via international treaties to
virtually the entire developed world).
Didn't say they were right. But I suspect that's their thinking.
Post by Wingnut
Post by Dragon Lady
I'm also a bit puzzled that anime series do seem to get the DVD
treatment, even though many of them (of course not all) are aimed at
least as much at children as adults.
Isn't most anime from Japan?
Isn't all of it, more or less *by definition*?
I dunno. Don't know anything about anime. I believe I already said that,
in the part you cut out.
Jack Bohn
2010-08-30 00:24:30 UTC
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Post by Wingnut
Post by Dragon Lady
Post by Angus Rodgers
I'm also a bit puzzled that anime series do seem to get the DVD
treatment, even though many of them (of course not all) are aimed at
least as much at children as adults.
Isn't most anime from Japan?
Isn't all of it, more or less *by definition*?
I dunno. Don't know anything about anime. I believe I already said that,
in the part you cut out.
As someone who knows anime, let me 'splain.

(I'll start by saying that the Japanese word "anime" refers to any
cartoon, while the American word "anime" means a cartoon made in
Japan, by Japanese creators, for a Japanese audience.)

As you might guess, anime fans are true fanatics. Plus, many fall
into that age group where they can now afford to buy the stuff they
longed for back when they were penniless kids. One final ingredient
is that their experience has been that anime is that HAS to be
acquired to be watched (tape trading back in the day) even now less
than 10% of the anime series on DVD in the store have ever been
broadcast on American TV. Combine all three, and it seems like a
desirable audience to sell to.
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Adam H. Kerman
2010-08-30 00:57:31 UTC
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Post by Jack Bohn
As someone who knows anime, let me 'splain.
(I'll start by saying that the Japanese word "anime" refers to any
cartoon, while the American word "anime" means a cartoon made in
Japan, by Japanese creators, for a Japanese audience.)
Why is the Japanese word a French word?

I thought the Japanese wouldn't refer to animation produced by a studio
elsewhere in the world as anime.
Jack Bohn
2010-08-30 02:51:59 UTC
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 00:57:31 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Jack Bohn
As someone who knows anime, let me 'splain.
(I'll start by saying that the Japanese word "anime" refers to any
cartoon, while the American word "anime" means a cartoon made in
Japan, by Japanese creators, for a Japanese audience.)
Why is the Japanese word a French word?
I'm told (and find it easier to believe) that the Japanese adopted and
adapted the English word "animation," coincidentally converging with
the French word.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
I thought the Japanese wouldn't refer to animation produced by a studio
elsewhere in the world as anime.
Again, I'm told they do: The Simpsons, Asterix, Akira, Betty Boop; all
"anime" to them. (All "cartoons" to me.)
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-Jack
David Johnston
2010-08-30 03:13:05 UTC
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Post by Jack Bohn
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 00:57:31 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Jack Bohn
As someone who knows anime, let me 'splain.
(I'll start by saying that the Japanese word "anime" refers to any
cartoon, while the American word "anime" means a cartoon made in
Japan, by Japanese creators, for a Japanese audience.)
Why is the Japanese word a French word?
I'm told (and find it easier to believe) that the Japanese adopted and
adapted the English word "animation," coincidentally converging with
the French word.
TThe Japanese adopted the word "anime" because France was and is a
gigantic market for their cartoons long before they made much headway
in English speaking countries.
Post by Jack Bohn
Post by Adam H. Kerman
I thought the Japanese wouldn't refer to animation produced by a studio
elsewhere in the world as anime.
Again, I'm told they do: The Simpsons, Asterix, Akira, Betty Boop; all
"anime" to them. (All "cartoons" to me.)
That is true. In Japan "anime" just means "cartoon".
Angus Rodgers
2010-08-30 03:34:09 UTC
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Post by Jack Bohn
I'm told (and find it easier to believe) that the Japanese adopted and
adapted the English word "animation," coincidentally converging with
the French word.
Unless somebody has been having me on:

yubotu = "U-boat" = submarine!
aisukurimu = ice cream!
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Wingnut
2010-08-30 04:25:31 UTC
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Post by Jack Bohn
I'm told (and find it easier to believe) that the Japanese adopted and
adapted the English word "animation," coincidentally converging with the
French word.
yubotu = "U-boat" = submarine!
aisukurimu = ice cream!
Interesting the way a "u" got added after every consonant that wasn't
followed immediately by a vowel.
David Johnston
2010-08-30 04:32:08 UTC
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Post by Wingnut
Post by Angus Rodgers
Post by Jack Bohn
I'm told (and find it easier to believe) that the Japanese adopted and
adapted the English word "animation," coincidentally converging with the
French word.
yubotu = "U-boat" = submarine!
aisukurimu = ice cream!
Interesting the way a "u" got added after every consonant that wasn't
followed immediately by a vowel.
It's just a rule of Japanese.
Micky DuPree
2010-09-01 23:38:25 UTC
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Wingnut <***@hotmail.invalid> writes:

: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 04:34:09 +0100, Angus Rodgers wrote:

:: [In Japanese:]
::
:: yubotu = "U-boat" = submarine!
:: aisukurimu = ice cream!
:
: Interesting the way a "u" got added after every consonant that wasn't
: followed immediately by a vowel.

Japanese is considered to be composed of syllables. A vowel may be
considered a valid syllable on its own, but not most consonants. What
we think of as consonants in the West usually have to be paired with
vowels in order to be considered valid syllables. When the Japanese
want to "spell" out a word rather than use the ideograms borrowed from
the Chinese (in telegrams, for example, or for introductory writing for
children or foreigners), they use prescribed symbols called _kana_ that
mostly stand for whole syllables (largely composed of one consonant
followed by one vowel when transcribed to the Roman alphabet) rather
than representing what we would consider individual letters in the West.

When the Japanese language borrows a foreign loan word, it requires a
syllabic "spelling" to conform to these rules. If consonants are shoved
together in the foreign word, they need to be separated, most often by a
"u" sound. As it turns out, though, the "u" and "i" sounds are
sometimes said to be "whispered" (which to my foreign ears was almost
the equivalent of what's known as a silent vowel in English or French),
so while foreign loan words may get "spelled" with extra "u" sounds, the
pronunciation may skip over those extra "u" sounds. Or not. It varies.

I can't remember any foreign examples offhand, but I have heard the
popular Japanese dish sukiyaki pronounced "s'kee-yah-kee" by a native.
Either way it's pronounced, though, it gets spelled the same way: with
four kana for "su," "ki," "ya," and another "ki." I don't know what the
_kanji_ (ideograms) for it are.

The only exception to the "no unaccompanied consonants" rule that I can
remember after all these years is the trailing "n" sound. So the
Japanese word for "Japan" is _nihon_ or sometimes _nippon_, not _nihonu_
or _nipponu_.

Probably off-topic, but I thought someone might be interested.

-Micky
Micky DuPree
2010-09-01 23:03:39 UTC
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Jack Bohn <***@bright.net> writes:

: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 00:57:31 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
: <***@chinet.com> wrote:

:: I thought the Japanese wouldn't refer to animation produced by a
:: studio elsewhere in the world as anime.
:
: Again, I'm told they do: The Simpsons, Asterix, Akira, Betty Boop; all
: "anime" to them. (All "cartoons" to me.)

Correct. The Japanese expression for what we call 'anime' in English is
more specific: _nihon no anime_, meaning "Japan's animation" or
"animation of Japan." The particle _no_ (at least at the level of
introductory Japanese, which is what I took a while back) marks the
previous word as serving a genitive or possessive function, though you
may have to interpret the possessive very figuratively. (The particle
_wa_ denotes the nominative case. The particle _o_ denotes the
accusative case. I forget how the dative is handled. My _sensei_ was
upset at my case observations, but at the introductory level, I didn't
see a single exception to these rules.)

-Micky
Wingnut
2010-09-02 04:19:15 UTC
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: Again, I'm told they do: The Simpsons, Asterix, Akira, Betty Boop; all
: "anime" to them. (All "cartoons" to me.)
Correct. The Japanese expression for what we call 'anime' in English is
more specific: _nihon no anime_, meaning "Japan's animation" or
"animation of Japan." The particle _no_ (at least at the level of
introductory Japanese, which is what I took a while back) marks the
previous word as serving a genitive or possessive function, though you
may have to interpret the possessive very figuratively. (The particle
_wa_ denotes the nominative case. The particle _o_ denotes the
accusative case. I forget how the dative is handled. My _sensei_ was
upset at my case observations, but at the introductory level, I didn't
see a single exception to these rules.)
Why should he get upset about a student noticing patterns in the subject
material? That doesn't strike me as optimal behavior for a teacher in any
field.
Micky DuPree
2010-09-09 09:41:29 UTC
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Wingnut <***@hotmail.invalid> writes:

: On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:03:39 +0000, Micky DuPree wrote:

:: The particle _no_ (at least at the level of introductory Japanese,
:: which is what I took a while back) marks the previous word as serving
:: a genitive or possessive function, though you may have to interpret
:: the possessive very figuratively. (The particle _wa_ denotes the
:: nominative case. The particle _o_ denotes the accusative case. I
:: forget how the dative is handled. My _sensei_ was upset at my case
:: observations, but at the introductory level, I didn't see a single
:: exception to these rules.)
:
: Why should he get upset about a student noticing patterns in the
: subject material? That doesn't strike me as optimal behavior for a
: teacher in any field.

He was a she, and she didn't say exactly why. I can only guess that at
a more advanced level of instruction, my observations would no longer
hold true. However, in Japanese 101, they worked fine. You do have to
read the genitive function pretty figuratively at times. In some
instances, _no_ could be translated as meaning "style" or "manner," for
example, rather than as a literal possessive, and that might have
bothered her.

-Micky
Wingnut
2010-09-10 05:01:44 UTC
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exception to these rules.)
teacher in any field.
He was a she, and she didn't say exactly why. I can only guess that at
a more advanced level of instruction, my observations would no longer
hold true.
Even if so, hers doesn't seem like an especially constructive response.
If you "can only guess" that means she didn't even say that much, let
alone anything more detailed.

Mike Henry
2010-08-27 10:18:01 UTC
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Post by Angus Rodgers
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:21:15 -0600, "Dragon Lady"
Post by Dragon Lady
Post by Angus Rodgers
A lot of children's shows and cartoons (is there not a market for
them, or are they not respected - apart from The Simpsons, Family
Guy, South Park, Futurama, The Ren and Stimpy Show, ...? OK, some
Er...you consider those show's to be children's shows?
Evidently not, as my own childhood is far behind me, but all of
them are of interest to children (or teenagers), and none of them
is aimed solely at adults.
False. South Park for a start, is aimed solely at adults. It is most
definitely uncompromisingly post-watershed.
Angus Rodgers
2010-08-27 12:16:47 UTC
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:18:01 +0100, Mike Henry
Post by Mike Henry
Post by Angus Rodgers
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:21:15 -0600, "Dragon Lady"
Post by Dragon Lady
Post by Angus Rodgers
A lot of children's shows and cartoons (is there not a market for
them, or are they not respected - apart from The Simpsons, Family
Guy, South Park, Futurama, The Ren and Stimpy Show, ...? OK, some
Er...you consider those show's to be children's shows?
Evidently not, as my own childhood is far behind me, but all of
them are of interest to children (or teenagers), and none of them
is aimed solely at adults.
False. South Park for a start, is aimed solely at adults. It is most
definitely uncompromisingly post-watershed.
This is becoming a tangle. I was referring to the shows in my own
wish list; South Park was in my "apart from ..." list, which was
an aside. I know I didn't make this clear, and I anticipated at
the time that it might be confusing, but I didn't think it mattered
enough to rewrite my poorly-structured, poorly-punctuated paragraph.
I suppose this is poetic justice for my "syntax error" message. :-)

I thought I had already cleared up this point in my reply to Dragon
Lady, when I explicitly wrote: "The Ren and Stimpy Show [...] would
also seem to fit more naturally into the same category as The Simpsons,
Family Guy, South Park, Futurama, American Dad, King of the Hill, etc.,
i.e. although enjoyable by children, it is aimed more at adults."

You're surely not suggesting that children never get to see South
Park, or else that they don't enjoy it when they do get to see it?
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Angus Rodgers
Mike Henry
2010-08-27 13:56:25 UTC
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Post by Angus Rodgers
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:18:01 +0100, Mike Henry
Post by Mike Henry
Post by Angus Rodgers
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:21:15 -0600, "Dragon Lady"
Post by Dragon Lady
Post by Angus Rodgers
A lot of children's shows and cartoons (is there not a market for
them, or are they not respected - apart from The Simpsons, Family
Guy, South Park, Futurama, The Ren and Stimpy Show, ...? OK, some
Er...you consider those show's to be children's shows?
Evidently not, as my own childhood is far behind me, but all of
them are of interest to children (or teenagers), and none of them
is aimed solely at adults.
False. South Park for a start, is aimed solely at adults. It is most
definitely uncompromisingly post-watershed.
This is becoming a tangle. I was referring to the shows in my own
wish list; South Park was in my "apart from ..." list, which was
an aside. I know I didn't make this clear, and I anticipated at
the time that it might be confusing, but I didn't think it mattered
enough to rewrite my poorly-structured, poorly-punctuated paragraph.
I suppose this is poetic justice for my "syntax error" message. :-)
:-)
Post by Angus Rodgers
I thought I had already cleared up this point in my reply to Dragon
Lady, when I explicitly wrote: "The Ren and Stimpy Show [...] would
also seem to fit more naturally into the same category as The Simpsons,
Family Guy, South Park, Futurama, American Dad, King of the Hill, etc.,
i.e. although enjoyable by children, it is aimed more at adults."
"aimed more at adults" isn't a clear enough statement for South Park IHMO.
Personally I think it shouldn't be seen by any children, although Sweden
disagrees with me. Teenagers maybe, children no way. Other programmes in
the list - fine.
Post by Angus Rodgers
You're surely not suggesting that children never get to see South
Park, or else that they don't enjoy it when they do get to see it?
Taking the South Park movie I see that it was 18-rated in some countries,
banned completely in some others, 15-rated in the UK, with lower ratings
in some others. But here in the UK at least, children could not legally
watch it in cinemas.

Which programmes parents allow their children to see in the home is their
business and not mine. But as far as the broadcasting laws in this country
go, South Park is uncompromisingly a post-watershed programme. Just
because the characters are children and it's animated doesn't
automatically mean that it could or should be watched by children. I think
it should not be lumped in the same category as programmes that are
properly suitable for children (but may have some adult content which may
go over their heads) like The Simpsons. Hope that clears it up :-)
Angus Rodgers
2010-08-27 14:34:51 UTC
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:56:25 +0100, Mike Henry
Post by Mike Henry
Which programmes parents allow their children to see in the home is their
business and not mine. But as far as the broadcasting laws in this country
go, South Park is uncompromisingly a post-watershed programme. Just
because the characters are children and it's animated doesn't
automatically mean that it could or should be watched by children. I think
it should not be lumped in the same category as programmes that are
properly suitable for children (but may have some adult content which may
go over their heads) like The Simpsons. Hope that clears it up :-)
***** you guys, I'm going home! :-)
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Angus Rodgers
Dragon Lady
2010-08-27 19:41:25 UTC
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Post by Angus Rodgers
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:18:01 +0100, Mike Henry
Post by Mike Henry
Post by Angus Rodgers
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:21:15 -0600, "Dragon Lady"
Post by Dragon Lady
Post by Angus Rodgers
A lot of children's shows and cartoons (is there not a market for
them, or are they not respected - apart from The Simpsons, Family
Guy, South Park, Futurama, The Ren and Stimpy Show, ...? OK, some
Er...you consider those show's to be children's shows?
Evidently not, as my own childhood is far behind me, but all of
them are of interest to children (or teenagers), and none of them
is aimed solely at adults.
False. South Park for a start, is aimed solely at adults. It is most
definitely uncompromisingly post-watershed.
This is becoming a tangle. I was referring to the shows in my own
wish list; South Park was in my "apart from ..." list, which was
an aside. I know I didn't make this clear, and I anticipated at
the time that it might be confusing, but I didn't think it mattered
enough to rewrite my poorly-structured, poorly-punctuated paragraph.
I suppose this is poetic justice for my "syntax error" message. :-)
I thought I had already cleared up this point in my reply to Dragon
Lady, when I explicitly wrote: "The Ren and Stimpy Show [...] would
also seem to fit more naturally into the same category as The Simpsons,
Family Guy, South Park, Futurama, American Dad, King of the Hill, etc.,
i.e. although enjoyable by children, it is aimed more at adults."
You're surely not suggesting that children never get to see South
Park, or else that they don't enjoy it when they do get to see it?
Depends on which age group you're talking about. I'm sure lots of teenagers
watch and enjoy South Park. Personally, I wouldn't let anyone under the age
of 12 watch that show.
scott
2010-08-27 20:02:05 UTC
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Time-Life is issuing all five seasons of The Six Million Dollar Man, but
only in the States (initially).
Extravagan
2010-08-27 21:44:22 UTC
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Post by scott
Time-Life is issuing all five seasons of The Six Million Dollar Man, but
only in the States (initially).
There are ways to get around their stupid "region coding".
--
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of those in film and theatre as well." -- Stephen Newport in
<6880-4C73775E-***@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net>
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.tv/msg/677328fcf9d66063
Mark A
2010-08-26 15:56:12 UTC
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Post by Joe
Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned already
available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release could've
included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't available,
what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a deluxe DVD
release.
Xena: Warrior Princess.

Regards

Mark
The Other Mike
2010-08-26 22:56:10 UTC
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:56:12 +0100, "Mark A"
Post by Mark A
Xena: Warrior Princess.
Interactive :)


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Anim8rFSK
2010-08-27 00:48:05 UTC
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Post by The Other Mike
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:56:12 +0100, "Mark A"
Post by Mark A
Xena: Warrior Princess.
Interactive :)
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Mac Breck
2010-08-26 16:26:51 UTC
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Post by Joe
Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned already
available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release could've
included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't available,
what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a deluxe DVD
release.
TV Shows That I MOST Want On DVD:
Brimstone (1998)
Strange Luck (1995)
Carol & Company (1990) - Show Intros. & Skits ONLY - in Season Sets*.
The Carol Burnett Show (1967) - Show Intros. & Skits ONLY - in Season
Sets*.
The Carol Burnett Show (1991) - Show Intros. & Skits ONLY - in Season
Sets*.
Midnight Caller (1988)
Mike Hammer (1956) - Darren McGavin
The Outsider (1968) - Darren McGavin
Special Unit 2 (2001)
The Agency (2001)
Bearcats! (1971)
Duck Dodgers (2003)
Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer (1984)
Boomtown (NBC, 2002-2003) - Season 2 (6 episodes)
Keen Eddie - with the *original* music, not the elevator music which is
on the currently available Keen Eddie DVD set.


TV Shows That I MOST Want On DVD in Deluxe Editions (feature packed):
Brimstone (1998)
Strange Luck (1995)
Carol & Company (1990) - Show Intros. & Skits ONLY - in Season Sets*.
The Carol Burnett Show (1967) - Show Intros. & Skits ONLY - in Season
Sets*.
The Carol Burnett Show (1991) - Show Intros. & Skits ONLY - in Season
Sets*.
Keen Eddie - with the *original* music, not the elevator music which is
on the currently available Keen Eddie DVD set.


* NOT dribbled out, one DVD at a time, containing only a couple of
shows, out of order, every 6 to 8 weeks via mail, with the singing and
dancing taking up valuable disc space, for $19.95 plus shipping &
handling, which would cost a *fortune* in the end to collect. God only
knows when you'd finally collect them all, *if* *ever* . i.e. Not via
that damned Guthy-Renker monstrosity which currently has a stranglehold
on the Carol Burnett material. :-||
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"Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999) - "War Zone"
Max Eilerson: "The story of my life. I finally find a city like this,
intact, deserted for ten thousand years. Probably contains hundreds of
patents that I could exploit and I'm going to die. I can appreciate
dramatic irony as much as the next person, but this is pushing it a
bit."
Mac Breck
2010-08-27 12:55:25 UTC
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Post by Mac Breck
Post by Joe
Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned
already available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release
could've included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't
available, what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a
deluxe DVD release.
Brimstone (1998)
Strange Luck (1995)
Carol & Company (1990) - Show Intros. & Skits ONLY - in Season Sets*.
The Carol Burnett Show (1967) - Show Intros. & Skits ONLY - in Season
Sets*.
The Carol Burnett Show (1991) - Show Intros. & Skits ONLY - in Season
Sets*.
Midnight Caller (1988)
Mike Hammer (1956) - Darren McGavin
The Outsider (1968) - Darren McGavin
Special Unit 2 (2001)
The Agency (2001)
Bearcats! (1971)
Duck Dodgers (2003)
Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer (1984)
Boomtown (NBC, 2002-2003) - Season 2 (6 episodes)
Keen Eddie - with the *original* music, not the elevator music which
is on the currently available Keen Eddie DVD set.
Oops! Forgot "Newhart" Seasons 2 thru 6. Season 1 was released *2.5*
*years* ago. Can't expect much of a deluxe edition here because a
couple of the stars (Mary Frann & Tom Poston) have already passed. :-(
Post by Mac Breck
Brimstone (1998)
Strange Luck (1995)
Carol & Company (1990) - Show Intros. & Skits ONLY - in Season Sets*.
The Carol Burnett Show (1967) - Show Intros. & Skits ONLY - in Season
Sets*.
The Carol Burnett Show (1991) - Show Intros. & Skits ONLY - in Season
Sets*.
Keen Eddie - with the *original* music, not the elevator music which
is on the currently available Keen Eddie DVD set.
* NOT dribbled out, one DVD at a time, containing only a couple of
shows, out of order, every 6 to 8 weeks via mail, with the singing and
dancing taking up valuable disc space, for $19.95 plus shipping &
handling, which would cost a *fortune* in the end to collect. God
only knows when you'd finally collect them all, *if* *ever* . i.e.
Not via that damned Guthy-Renker monstrosity which currently has a
stranglehold on the Carol Burnett material. :-||
--
Mac Breck (KoshN)
-------------------------------
"Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999) - "War Zone"
Max Eilerson: "The story of my life. I finally find a city like this,
intact, deserted for ten thousand years. Probably contains hundreds of
patents that I could exploit and I'm going to die. I can appreciate
dramatic irony as much as the next person, but this is pushing it a
bit."
JNugent
2010-08-26 16:54:13 UTC
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Post by Joe
Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned already
available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release could've
included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't available,
what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a deluxe DVD
release.
The Beverly Hillbillies (all of it - with ORIGINAL music).
AuntyPalin
2010-08-26 21:37:02 UTC
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Post by JNugent
The Beverly Hillbillies (all of it - with ORIGINAL music).
Myself also. Have you seen the relatively recently released:

The Beverly Hillbillies: The Official Second Season
The Beverly Hillbillies: The Official Third Season

These are much better than The Ultimate Collection Season 1 and all
the other dribdrab releases without the original music.

I hope they eventually do all the seasons - whoa 9 of em?

Also, I'd like Northern Exposure. :-)

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Brian Thorn
2010-08-27 02:44:55 UTC
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Post by Joe
Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned already
available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release could've
included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't available,
what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a deluxe DVD
release.
QUANTUM LEAP with original music restored.
WKRP IN CINCINATTI complete series with original music.
Micky DuPree
2010-08-27 05:33:09 UTC
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_Colditz_, the early-70s BBC TV series, not the miniseries nor the
movie.

_Search_, the early-70s US TV series.

-Micky
Anim8rFSK
2010-08-27 07:34:26 UTC
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_Search_, the early-70s US TV series.
Good call.
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Michael O'Connor
2010-08-27 10:21:53 UTC
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Hill Street Blues, of which only the first two (of seven) seasons were
released on DVD.

St. Elsewhere, only the first season (of six) was released on DVD.

The first three syndicated seasons of SCTV need to be released in
their entirety. Laugh Factory put out a compilation set of the pre-
NBC years with some of the episodes. I would also like to see the
final Cinemax season of SCTV released.
Angus Rodgers
2010-08-27 12:26:14 UTC
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 03:21:53 -0700 (PDT), "Michael O'Connor"
Post by Michael O'Connor
Hill Street Blues, of which only the first two (of seven) seasons were
released on DVD.
Seconded. (It wasn't on my list only for the selfish reason that
I have by now watched the whole series, thanks to having seen
most of it when it was first broadcast, and then caught up with
the programmes I'd missed when Channel 4 repeated the first four
seasons last year. (A great time for TV here in the UK, because
The Wire was also being shown in its entirety on BBC2! I mean,
a great time for repeats of great US TV in the UK.) :-)

An absolute classic, which people need to see.
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Angus Rodgers
Michael Black
2010-08-27 15:06:26 UTC
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Post by Micky DuPree
_Colditz_, the early-70s BBC TV series, not the miniseries nor the
movie.
_Search_, the early-70s US TV series.
I'd be more inclined to buy that on DVD than something that has aired
recently and even been in syndicated reruns.

I can't get excited about The Simpsons on DVD, for instance, since I've
seen most episodes so many times.

But of the few TV series I've bought on DVD, they are all from long in
the past, and I haven't seen them in reruns in decades.

So I bought "Jonny Quest", I'm not even sure if I'd seen it before
I got the DVD, none of it was familiar and while I remember ads for it,
I don't remember watching it. So it was a whole new experience for me.

I bought "Space Ghost", since I hadn't seen it since the sixties. That
was a letdown, a lot of repetition and not a lot to the an episode, yet
I bought it in part since I did enjoy it before I turned ten.

I admit that in both cases, the fact that they were complete in one set,
and didn't cost much, was a factor. I don't really want to buy a whole
string of volumes, and I'm not sure I'd be good at choosing a
representative season.

"Search" would fit that. I watched it, but don't have a lot of memory
about it, couldn't tell you about any specific episode. It had a short
run, it should be on one release. It's been long enough that it would
be tempting to see it again.

Michael
James Sidbury
2010-08-27 15:35:21 UTC
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I'd like the more recent series' of "The Tomorrow People". To me it was
much more enjoyable than the original ones.
Jerry Brown
2010-08-27 20:21:08 UTC
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:35:21 -0400, James Sidbury
Post by James Sidbury
I'd like the more recent series' of "The Tomorrow People". To me it was
much more enjoyable than the original ones.
There's a fairly bare-bones Region 2 release, if your player can
handle that.

Personally I preferred the early seasons of the original version, and
that is on R2 as well.

Jerry Brown
--
A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)

<http://www.jwbrown.co.uk>
Arthur Lipscomb
2010-08-27 23:40:25 UTC
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Post by Jerry Brown
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:35:21 -0400, James Sidbury
Post by James Sidbury
I'd like the more recent series' of "The Tomorrow People". To me it was
much more enjoyable than the original ones.
There's a fairly bare-bones Region 2 release, if your player can
handle that.
Personally I preferred the early seasons of the original version, and
that is on R2 as well.
Jerry Brown
--
The original version was released in Region 1. I saw the new version when
it first came out and wouldn't mind seeing it again. I saw the originals
for the first time a few years ago when they were released on DVD. I've
been tempted to buy them a few times; a new release with new features would
definitely add to that temptation.
Anim8rFSK
2010-08-27 16:28:57 UTC
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Post by Michael Black
Post by Micky DuPree
_Colditz_, the early-70s BBC TV series, not the miniseries nor the
movie.
_Search_, the early-70s US TV series.
I'd be more inclined to buy that on DVD than something that has aired
recently and even been in syndicated reruns.
I can't get excited about The Simpsons on DVD, for instance, since I've
seen most episodes so many times.
But of the few TV series I've bought on DVD, they are all from long in
the past, and I haven't seen them in reruns in decades.
So I bought "Jonny Quest", I'm not even sure if I'd seen it before
I got the DVD, none of it was familiar and while I remember ads for it,
I don't remember watching it. So it was a whole new experience for me.
And? Was it good for you?
Post by Michael Black
I bought "Space Ghost", since I hadn't seen it since the sixties. That
was a letdown, a lot of repetition and not a lot to the an episode, yet
I bought it in part since I did enjoy it before I turned ten.
I admit that in both cases, the fact that they were complete in one set,
and didn't cost much, was a factor. I don't really want to buy a whole
string of volumes, and I'm not sure I'd be good at choosing a
representative season.
"Search" would fit that. I watched it, but don't have a lot of memory
about it, couldn't tell you about any specific episode. It had a short
run, it should be on one release. It's been long enough that it would
be tempting to see it again.
The only eps I've ever seen online of it were from a Canadian airing.
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Jerry Brown
2010-08-27 22:04:26 UTC
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Post by Michael Black
"Search" would fit that. I watched it, but don't have a lot of memory
about it, couldn't tell you about any specific episode. It had a short
run, it should be on one release. It's been long enough that it would
be tempting to see it again.
I can remember a couple of episodes from when it was shown in the UK
in the seventies; one where the agent-of-the-week was kidnapped and
dumped on an island with his ear implant altered to torture him
periodically, and another where Burgess Meredith was kidnapped and
agent-of-the-week had to locate and rescue him (odd that the only
stories I can remember involved kidnappings of the regulars). It was
retitled "Search Control" here, most likely because there already a UK
show called "Search".

I have a VHS of the original pilot, Probe, from a nineties TV
reshowing. Hugh O'Brian was the lead, and John Giegud of all people
guest starred. Must transfer to DVD at some point. Great Dominic
Frontiere theme tune.

Jerry Brown
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A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)

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Dry Gulch Pete
2010-08-27 14:20:42 UTC
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Post by Joe
Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned already
available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release could've
included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't available,
what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a deluxe DVD
release.
Curry and Chips by Johnny Speight with Spike Milligan, Eric Sykes and
Sam Kydd - six half-hour colour episodes when ITV went colour in the
fall of 1969.

I bet it's *still* funny!
trag
2010-08-27 15:55:53 UTC
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Post by Joe
Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned already
available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release could've
included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't available,
what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a deluxe DVD
release.
I don't care about delux. I just wish that that the second season of
"Ned & Stacy" (Will & Grace before there was Will & Grace) would make
it to DVD. Similarly for seasons 2+ of "Who's the Boss".
Wingnut
2010-08-28 02:52:57 UTC
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Post by trag
Post by Joe
Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned already
available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release could've
included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't available,
what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a deluxe DVD
release.
I don't care about delux. I just wish that that the second season of
"Ned & Stacy" (Will & Grace before there was Will & Grace) would make it
to DVD. Similarly for seasons 2+ of "Who's the Boss".
I think the reason there's a lot of only-season-1 DVD series out there is
because they release the first season, but only commit to mastering and
pressing discs for later seasons if the first one sells at all well.

So if a show doesn't do well on DVD, the first season is all you'll see.
Rkprcg ivn Ovggbeerag.
Harold Groot
2010-08-28 03:52:53 UTC
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:52:57 +0000 (UTC), Wingnut
Post by Wingnut
Post by trag
Post by Joe
Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned already
available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release could've
included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't available,
what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a deluxe DVD
release.
I don't care about delux. I just wish that that the second season of
"Ned & Stacy" (Will & Grace before there was Will & Grace) would make it
to DVD. Similarly for seasons 2+ of "Who's the Boss".
I think the reason there's a lot of only-season-1 DVD series out there is
because they release the first season, but only commit to mastering and
pressing discs for later seasons if the first one sells at all well.
So if a show doesn't do well on DVD, the first season is all you'll see.
Well, then, obviously we need a Deluxe edition of WORMHOLE X-TREME!
(It was cancelled VERY quickly - but I understand the DVD sales were
surprisingly good....)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole_X-Treme!
lugnut
2010-08-28 15:07:33 UTC
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:52:57 +0000 (UTC), Wingnut
Post by Wingnut
Post by trag
Post by Joe
Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned already
available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release could've
included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't available,
what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a deluxe DVD
release.
I don't care about delux. I just wish that that the second season of
"Ned & Stacy" (Will & Grace before there was Will & Grace) would make it
to DVD. Similarly for seasons 2+ of "Who's the Boss".
I think the reason there's a lot of only-season-1 DVD series out there is
because they release the first season, but only commit to mastering and
pressing discs for later seasons if the first one sells at all well.
So if a show doesn't do well on DVD, the first season is all you'll see.
Rkprcg ivn Ovggbeerag.
Which is understandable, but I think the 1st-season-test-run practice
hurts a lot of longer-running shows where the 1st season was not
nearly as good or not very representative of the rest of the series.
Not to mention that lots of people started holding off on buying the
S1 DVDs to wait and see if any other seasons would be released too so
they'd be less likely to get burned again by another
"one-season-wonder."

I'm surprised the studios haven't really begun using the
"burn-on-demand" market for TV series yet, since it'd be a great way
for people to finally get their shows without the studios having to
gamble on a large print run.

-lugnut
Snarktopus
2010-08-28 15:31:46 UTC
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:52:57 +0000 (UTC), Wingnut
[snip]
Birds of a feather?
Tim
2010-08-28 15:35:01 UTC
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Post by Harold Groot
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:52:57 +0000 (UTC), Wingnut
[snip]
Birds of a feather?
Flock together?
Extravagan
2010-08-28 15:37:35 UTC
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Post by Harold Groot
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:52:57 +0000 (UTC), Wingnut
[snip]
Birds of a feather?
I knew it! This newsgroup is the internet equivalent of a funny farm.
And here I am, the only guard watching all the inmates.
--
"I hope there are a lot of hardcore scenes in it. There should be more
of those in film and theatre as well." -- Stephen Newport in
<6880-4C73775E-***@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net>
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.tv/msg/677328fcf9d66063
lugnut
2010-08-29 16:04:03 UTC
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Post by Extravagan
Post by Snarktopus
Post by Harold Groot
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:52:57 +0000 (UTC), Wingnut
[snip]
Birds of a feather?
I knew it! This newsgroup is the internet equivalent of a funny farm.
And here I am, the only guard watching all the inmates.
--
"I hope there are a lot of hardcore scenes in it. There should be more
of those in film and theatre as well." -- Stephen Newport in
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.tv/msg/677328fcf9d66063
Sorry to disappoint, but nope, I ain't Wingnut.

-lugnut
trag
2010-08-30 16:37:55 UTC
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I think the reason there's a lot of only-season-1 DVD series out there is
because they release the first season, but only commit to mastering and
pressing discs for later seasons if the first one sells at all well.
So if a show doesn't do well on DVD, the first season is all you'll see.
Rkprcg ivn Ovggbeerag.
Heh, but a lot of folks won't buy the first season until they see
whether the additional seasons will be available....
Anim8rFSK
2010-08-30 18:57:05 UTC
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Post by trag
Post by Wingnut
I think the reason there's a lot of only-season-1 DVD series out there is
because they release the first season, but only commit to mastering and
pressing discs for later seasons if the first one sells at all well.
So if a show doesn't do well on DVD, the first season is all you'll see.
Rkprcg ivn Ovggbeerag.
Heh, but a lot of folks won't buy the first season until they see
whether the additional seasons will be available....
There's also the 'screw the early adopters' bit. For instance, THE WILD
WILD WEST. I bought every season as they came out. Then at the end,
they announced a 4 season pack that included the reunion movies, and
didn't sell the movies separately. Makes me not want to buy ANY TV
series on DVD until they're all out.
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Ubiquitous
2010-08-30 19:13:12 UTC
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There's also the 'screw the early adopters' bit. For instance, THE WILD
WILD WEST. I bought every season as they came out. Then at the end,
they announced a 4 season pack that included the reunion movies, and
didn't sell the movies separately. Makes me not want to buy ANY TV
series on DVD until they're all out.
Why would you want the reunion movies? I heard they're rancid.
Mike Henry
2010-08-30 19:52:52 UTC
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Post by Anim8rFSK
There's also the 'screw the early adopters' bit. For instance, THE WILD
WILD WEST. I bought every season as they came out. Then at the end,
they announced a 4 season pack that included the reunion movies, and
didn't sell the movies separately. Makes me not want to buy ANY TV
series on DVD until they're all out.
Why would you want the reunion movies? I heard they're rancid.
It's just an example, you're missing the point.
Anim8rFSK
2010-08-31 01:06:18 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by Anim8rFSK
There's also the 'screw the early adopters' bit. For instance, THE WILD
WILD WEST. I bought every season as they came out. Then at the end,
they announced a 4 season pack that included the reunion movies, and
didn't sell the movies separately. Makes me not want to buy ANY TV
series on DVD until they're all out.
Why would you want the reunion movies? I heard they're rancid.
It's just an example, you're missing the point.
Also, the first movie isn't great, but it's at least as good as a
mid-range episode, has some good guess stars, and was worth having,
especially if you're a completist. The second one wasn't very good at
all, but, all the above.
--
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Tony Calguire
2010-08-31 23:58:33 UTC
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Post by Joe
Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned already
available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release could've
included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't available,
what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a deluxe DVD
release.
Eek The Cat. Because it never hurts to help.
Rob Jensen
2010-09-07 04:44:02 UTC
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Post by Joe
Irrespective whether any former or current TV show/s mentioned already
available on DVD or Blu ray (but you reckon its release could've
included a lot more in the way of extras), or still isn't available,
what greatly admired TV shows would you love seeing get a deluxe DVD
release.
China Beach
Batman
The Wonder Years
WKRP in Cincinnati (that abomination that was released doesn't count)
Ed

Just fucking pay for the rights to the music you fucking idiot
studios. If David E. Kelley can do it for Ally McBeal, then you all
can fucking suck it up, too.

(Yes, nobody at the studios is reading this, but I just had to vent it
as if I was saying it to them anyway.)

Also, I want the next editions of every series that's been released
with acceptable music omissions or substitutions to be re-released
with the original music. It's waaay less of an urgent need than for
releasing the above five series absolutely intact, but still, there
are situations where the music shouldn't have been omitted for the
DVDs, such as Criminal Minds's two-parter starring James VanDerBeek as
a killer with the split personality of his abusive father. Johnny
Cash's "God's Gonna Cut You Down" was *key* undersscoring for scenes
in that episode (and IIRC, "The Man Comes Around" was also used in the
episodes) -- and the Beek's abusive father, played by Don "Yes,
Patrick's Little Brother" Swayze was even listed in the script as "The
Man In Black." Thankfully, the DVDs simply omitted the songs rather
than substituted in something else, but IMO, the lack of the songs
left the episodes kinda naked and not nearly as big as they are in
their original broadcast form.

Oh, and I'd like to have a complete Gilmore GIrls boxed set with
commentary tracks for *every* episode.

-- Rob
Anim8rFSK
2010-09-07 17:22:57 UTC
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Just fucking pay for the rights to the music you fucking idiot
studios. If David E. Kelley can do it for Ally McBeal, then you all
can fucking suck it up, too.
It is always amazing that the rights holders want so much money for no
additional work that it's cheaper to buy replacement songs and go to the
trouble of remastering the show's audio.

I can't blame the studios in every case. Many years ago I worked on the
theatrical teaser trailer for Goldeneye. When we wanted to put it on
our demo reel, I had my sound guy ask what using the Bond theme would
cost (almost everybody uses music on their demo reels without paying,
but I wanted to at least 'try') - the answer that came back was, and I
quote, "at least eighty seven thousand and five hundred dollars"

Which is why we used the same Bond Theme Clone everybody else uses,
which was in the bloody library already and was free.

There are also overlapping rights problems, where somebody CAN'T sell
you that song Johnny Fever liked because it's exclusive to CSI Horatio
or something for the run of the show, or to a car commercial or whatever.

Or you have a show that has 17 songs in it from one company, and one
from another, and the guy with one song thinks he should make as much as
the guy with 17.

But, really, Dawson's Creek? It's not like they made that show in the
1960s - why the Hell didn't they negotiate for home video rights at the
time? And replacing the Paula Cole theme song????
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